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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 16:30:31 PST
From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu>
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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #80
To: Info-Hams
Info-Hams Digest Thu, 27 Jan 94 Volume 94 : Issue 80
Today's Topics:
**YAESU PARTS HELP**
Callbook Server
CW filters and DSP-9 (2 msgs)
Famous hams
FCC RF Spectrum Allocation?
FTP site for Keps
general
htx-202 or dj-162 ?
Illegal Activities of Dominique Cormann (Re: CB/HAM equipment)
INDEX
Is portable radio use possible in remote wilderness areas?
LA Comms
nearby broadcast antennas
Need info on CCW
Of Wouff Hongs and Royal Rites (2 msgs)
Power Line Interference (2 msgs)
Warning About FT-415/815 mod on world
Yeasu FT416 mods wanted
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We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
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Date: 26 Jan 94 08:33:22 CST
From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ukma!netnews.wku.edu!bcobb@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: **YAESU PARTS HELP**
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
HELP!!! I HAVE A FT-901DM (HF RIG) WHICH NEEDS SOME PARTS..ANYBODY
HAVE A NUMBER FOR YAESU PARTS OR AN IDEA WHERE OLDER YAESU PARTS CAN
BE FOUND? THANKS... BOB KA4CLL
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Date: 26 Jan 1994 07:41:51 GMT
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!wupost!bigfoot.wustl.edu!cec1!jlw3@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Callbook Server
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Shawn Conahan (sconahan@ccantares.wcupa.EDU) wrote:
: Willie Smith writes:
: >...Did the internet call book go away,...
: No, it hasn't vanished, it can still be reached by telnet at
: cc.buffalo.edu 2000
: (notice the word "callsign" is omitted from the address). 73
: --
: Shawn T. Conahan, Ph.D.
: N3CGT
: sconahan@ccantares.wcupa.edu
Is it just me or does this really not work? I have always used the other
one, but I tried this out--
callsign.cs.buffalo.edu 2000 works much better from here (considering that
cs.buffalo.edu gives me an "unknown host" reply)
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 19:47:22 GMT
From: news.cerf.net!pagesat.net!olivea!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: CW filters and DSP-9
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Ignacy Misztal (ignacy@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: wvanhorn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William E Van Horne) writes:
: >Kein{nen Paul wrote:
: >Can someone with a great deal more technical knowledge than I have
: >state just what is the minimum usable bandwidth for a 10-20 WPM CW
: >signal, and how much audible ringing is truly inescapable?
: I assume that G is an average-size letter in Morse and the
: transmission is at 120 wpm (2 characters/s). ...
120 wpm is 2 WORDS per second, or about 10 characters per second.
In my previous posting, I analyzed the required bandwidth based on
a ringing fall-off rate of three time constants during the "off"
time between dits and dahs. Ignacy's method of looking at the
frequency content of the baseband signal (i.e. the keying rate)
is also valid.
The highest pulse repetition frequency is when you are sending a
string of dits (for example, the letter H or the number 5.)
My previous example of 48 wpm results in 20 dots per second.
A Morse code signal can be considered to be an AM (ampltidude
modulated) signal that is 100% modulated with a square wave, in
this case a 20 Hz square wave. Since an AM signal has two sidebands,
the bandwidth must be at least 40 Hz.
My previous result was 38 Hz, in good agreement with the above result.
The required bandwidth is proportional to keying speed so, for example,
24 wpm would require about 20 Hz, etc.
AL N1AL
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 19:53:46 GMT
From: news.cerf.net!pagesat.net!olivea!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: CW filters and DSP-9
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Rajiv Dewan (rdewan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) wrote:
..
: Each dot is encoded by an dot time length on and a dot time length off, i.e., a
: cycle of twice the dot lenght. This is like multiplying a 50Hz square wave
: with a 750 Hz tone. To maintain some semblance of square shape,
: one would want to include the fundamental and at least the third harmonic.
: This results in a minimum bandwidth of 150Hz. ...
It's actually twice that, since the modulated 750 Hz tone has two sidebands.
AL N1AL
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Date: 24 Jan 1994 10:15:54 -0800
From: sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!olivea!apple.com!apple.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Famous hams
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
mosier@fagan.uncg.edu (Stephen Mosier) writes:
>AND A FEW OTHER FAMOUS ONES HEARD ON THE AIR...
>RG8U
>R2D2
You forgot 5Z4GT. I thought I might fully rectify the e^Homission.
73,
Kok Chen, AA6TY kchen@apple.com
Apple Computer, Inc.
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 16:02:13 GMT
From: utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!sifon!clouso.crim.ca!hobbit.ireq.hydro.qc.ca!cumin.telecom.uqam.ca!news@uunet.uu.net
Subject: FCC RF Spectrum Allocation?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <rjk.759520576@access1> rjk@access1.digex.net (Robert J. Keller) writes:
>
>I don't have handy at the moment where on the net you might find this,
>but the FCC's spectrum allocations are set forth in Part 2 of its Rules.
>You need Subpart B of Part 2 of Title 47 of the Code of Federal
>Regulations. In legalese (not that the foregoing was actually English)
>that is "47 C.F.R. sections 2.100 - 2.108 and it is called the
>"Allocation, Assignment, and Use of Radio Frequencies," more commonly
>called, the Table of Allocations.
>
>I recall seeing that there is a Gopher site somewhere that is
>experimentally offering access to at least some portions of CFR, but
>unfortunately I don't have the reference handy at the moment.
>
>Good luck.
>--
>Bob Keller (KY3R) rjk@telcomlaw.win.net Tel 301.229.5208 Fax 301.229.6875
>
I would guess that you could get that info at M.I.T.
on the ftp site : /pub/telecom-archives or something like that .
they also have a very good http site (hypertext)
.... hope that helps ...
Luc Gagnon T.P. VE2 LGN
E.T.S. - Quebec University
Montreal Quebec Canada
luc@ele.etsmtl.ca
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Date: 27 Jan 94 21:28:57 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: FTP site for Keps
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Hi--
I know there is an ftp site out there for getting the keplarian elements. I
use to remember what it was, but I have long since forgotten it. I would appr
eciate any help.....Thanx & 73's....Gary AA9JS
internet: st1860@siucvmb.siu.edu
bitnet: st1860@siucvmb.bitnet
packet: aa9js@kd9sg.#sil.il.usa
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Date: 27 Jan 94 22:26:06 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: general
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
subscribe newsgroup.
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 12:12:25 -0500
From: sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!csn!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!NewsWatcher!user@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: htx-202 or dj-162 ?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I have pretty much narrowed down my choice to these two 2m ht's.
I'd like to get comments and opinions from people in the net who
have actually used both.
currently, I am leaning towards the dj-162 because of its wide
receive.
please email responses if possible.
thanks in advance.
jerry
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Date: 26 Jan 1994 06:46:43 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!news.forth.gr!helios.intranet.gr!phaethon!demetre@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Illegal Activities of Dominique Cormann (Re: CB/HAM equipment)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
>The reason I am selling this, is that I am getting my HAM license soon, and
>am starting to look for a 2 meter radio. I will also trade the above setup,
>for a good 2 meter setup, make me an offer.
Not if I can help it. I will use any influence I have left as the Former
Public Service Director of the Northern Alberta Radio Club, and any avenues
of information transfer, such as the Packet Radio system, to ensure that people
of your kind are carefully scrutinized. This will not prevent you receiving
your ticket, but it may make you very uncomfortable when your past catches up
with you.
I was shocked from this message !! I always thought that Amateur Radio
was created and is still popular due to it's promotion of friendship !!
So what if the man was a "pirate", what matters *now* is the fact that
he is going straight !!! If he seems to be sincere about his "turn around"
he should be given the chance to do so !!!
Every possible effort must be made to reform the radio pirates with the
real *amateur" way, not with threats and vengence like you have done !!
73's
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Date: 27 Jan 94 20:03:00 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: INDEX
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
INDEX
HELP
INFO
2-METER
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Date: 27 Jan 94 20:14:29 GMT
From: sdcc12!sdcc14!ph600fgr@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Is portable radio use possible in remote wilderness areas?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I do much backpacking, and increasingly I go alone. I'm thinking
about the possibility of bringing a communications radio with
me. Do these things have a large enough range to work out in
the wilderness? I typically find myself only in California.
What's the cost involved, and how big are the radios?
-Matt
--
Internet: mbharrin@ucsd.edu
Bitnet: MBHARRIN@UCSD.BITNET
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Date: 24 Jan 94 06:06:26 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com!wb6w@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: LA Comms
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Steven Jackson (jackson@longlast.cs.nyu.edu) wrote:
: Hello all, and good luck to the LA residents.
: What kind of communications did amateurs take part in during the emergency
: out there? I love to speculate (the less you know, the more you guess) but
: I would like to know for sure what kind of things kick into action when
: something like that strikes.
I listened to some of the comms in Socal. What I heard reminded me very
much of what was going on here (NorCal) after our 7.1 in '89. CelTel
has had a LOT of publicity as has Internet. At the same time, I've seen
NO media mention of Amateur Radio activity down there. Sheesh!
While CelTel seems to indicate that any boob can provide comms in a disaster,
keep in mind that CelTel relies on landline and that the CelTel "HT" is
just as subject to dead battery syndrome and a 2m HT. The difference is that
the ham has (hopefully) had some training on *HOW* to handle disaster comms
and some idea of where hir next battery charge is coming from.
The experience with cell tel in '89 was that it didn't work very well when
the batteries were charge and not at all when they weren't.
- Glenn wb6w
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Date: 24 Jan 94 05:59:51 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!crcnis1.unl.edu!engvms.unl.edu!tmrdpsrs@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: nearby broadcast antennas
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Hello All,
I have a question about a possible interference problem that I may soon be
experiencing.
I am considering a move from my current QTH to a new apartment. However, the
apartment I'm considering is located immediately next to three transmitting
towers. All three are commercial broadcast stations, one FM (102.7 MHz), one
TV (Channel 10) and one AM (1240 kHz). I am currently active on 2 m, 440 MHz,
and am very active on HF for shortwave listening and will soon be working
the HF ham bands. I am worried that moving so close to the towers will
cause problems with the performance of my equipment (noise, desensing, images,
intermod, etc.)
I plan to set up some dipoles very close to the tower sites and am worried that
it could ruin my enjoyment of the radio hobby if all the RF causes problems.
Has anybody had any experience with this??? Is it anything to worry about???
Any experiences anyone has had (or even just bold speculations from more
seasoned operators/listeners) would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Ron Synowicki, KG0HX
TMRDPSRS@ENGVMS.UNL.EDU
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 10:12:36
From: sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!cf-cm!d089.elsy.cf.ac.uk!SPEMG1@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Need info on CCW
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I need info on Coherent CW (Rigs, Kits, Books etc.). Can anybody point me to
the right direction please
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 20:50:02 GMT
From: news.cerf.net!pagesat.net!olivea!news.bu.edu!att-in!att-out!cbnewst!waco@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Of Wouff Hongs and Royal Rites
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
jwittich@b4pph107.bnr.ca (Jeffrey Wittich) writes
>Hi, everybody. Well, its about spring, and that means we are
>getting ready for the local HamFest round here. Im looking
>at the hamfest flyer, and one on the events listed is
>The Royal Order of Whoff Hong Induction. Well ya see, Im kind
>of a new guy, and dunno what thats all about. I asked about it
>the local 2 meter repeater, and you should have heard the
>snickers and snorks. I quickly surmised that it was a secret.
Yep, it is a secret.
> So keeping with the spirit of fun, I will not just ask
>what this is all about, but I do have a few questions:
>
>1. Is it something that the OFs will enjoy at us new guys expense?
You're very perceptive.
>2. Is it an event that I would prefer no one had a camera at?
Yep.
>3. Would I be any less likely to get home that night than any
> other night?
I would hope not.
>4. Will my health insurance cover anything thats likely to happen?
Best check it out.
>5. Is there a potential for any embarassment to any involved?
Of course not.
>6. Could I be black-mailed for being there?
Only if someone knows about it.
>7. Why am I so paranoid about this?
Probably been on too many snipe hunts as a bag holder.
>Thanks guys, and heres the Email address:
>jwittich@b4pph107.bnr.ca
>
>I will let you know what happened (maybe) in May.
Probably will be unable to break the sworn code of silence due
to great bodily peril involved for doing so.
>C ya.
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-=Jeff=- AC4ZO BNR claims they know nothing of my employment
> here. Specially when my attorney calls.
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff,
I must confess I don't know much more about it than you. It's one of
the most mystic parts of the hobby. Enjoy the hamfest.
73,
John, WB9VGJ
=========================================================
John L. Broughton | snail mail: Room 1K-322
AT&T | 1200 E. Warrenville Rd.
| P.O. Box 3045
| Naperville, IL 60566-7045
| (708) 713-4319
| e-mail: john.l.broughton@att.com
| att!john.l.broughton
| air mail: WB9VGJ
=========================================================
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Date: 27 Jan 94 20:27:34 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Of Wouff Hongs and Royal Rites
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
1. Is it something that the OFs will enjoy at us new guys expense?
not really.
2. Is it an event that I would prefer no one had a camera at?
not usually
3. Would I be any less likely to get home that night than any
other night?
nope...but usually it's late when it's performed.
4. Will my health insurance cover anything thats likely to happen?
yes.
5. Is there a potential for any embarassment to any involved?
a little
6. Could I be black-mailed for being there?
not to my knowledge...
7. Why am I so paranoid about this?
dunno. you do get a certificate out of it all....but we can't tell you what's
going to happen.
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 14:55:24 GMT
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Power Line Interference
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <1994Jan25.140537.16951@ccd.harris.com> drs@ccd.harris.com (Doug Snowden) writes:
>Please don't tell me to go beat on the pole!
Well that's what the power company is going to do. Many problems like
this are due to something coming loose mechanically on the pole. Jarring
it is the way they pin it down. This *is* best left to professionals,
however, since a possibility exists that striking the pole could make
a permanent short, or drop something on you.
Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 14:05:37 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!jabba.ess.harris.com!mlb.semi.harris.com!controls.ccd.harris.com!drs@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Power Line Interference
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
For the past 3 years I have been trying to track down some noise that appears
to be coming from the power lines. I have walked around with a portable radio,
driven around (for miles in all directions) in my car seeking the source. The
source seems to come from one of the two power poles across the street from me.
This noise tends to show up in the Winter time or on cool or rainy
Summer days. In the Summer time I might have the noise on a day that remains
cloudy (therefore cooler). In the Winter time the noise also tends to also
show up mostly (but not always) at night time when it is cooler. We are talking
about Florida, so in the Winter time it doesnt normally get that cold. Now here
is the weird part: The noise has a cyclic period of about 1.5 seconds on and
1.5 seconds off. This part doesn't vary. If I have the noise, it has this
period. Now there are no capacitors on the power poles around me. The pole that
I suspect has a transformer on it. Can a transformer do this? How? Is there
some sort of capacitor or protection circuit on these xfmrs that can do this?
Normally, I cannot determine the source (this changes). My 20 meter
beam seems to tell me which pole the noise comes from, but if I walk up to
the pole, with a portable radio I normally am not able to zero in on it.
I have called the power company in the past to repair a problem which I was
able to point them to. I am reluctant to call them on this one, even though
it tears up all from 1500 khz to 21 mhz. I have heard that this sort of
interference can originate miles away and be picked up by the power lines at
some distant point (my house). I imagine I'll call the power company for
resolution, but would like any input I can get before I do it. Please don't
tell me to go beat on the pole!
--
Doug Snowden
drs@ccd.harris.com
N4IJ
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Date: 26 Jan 1994 16:58:32 GMT
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!mailer.acns.fsu.edu!freenet2.scri.fsu.edu!ijordan@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Warning About FT-415/815 mod on world
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Sorry guys. Mail problems. The warning was that after you do the mod for
the ft-415/815 that is on world.std.com, you loose your Automatic Repeater
Offset (ARO) capability. It's a tradeoff. Bummer.
--
* * Ian Jordan * *
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Date: 26 Jan 1994 16:56:29 GMT
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!mailer.acns.fsu.edu!freenet2.scri.fsu.edu!ijordan@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Yeasu FT416 mods wanted
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Read the FT-415 mods. Exactly the same internally. Get 'em of FTP from
world.std.com! But the extend tx mod will kill your Automatic repeater
offset (ARO), so you have to be willing to loose that.
--
* * Ian Jordan * *
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End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #80
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